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« #12975 : January 08, 2014, 05:46:19 AM »

what happened to you, Dust Devil? You go on a long hibernation, we don't hear from you for months (during which time Groggy stopped complaining about discussions from the RTLMYS thread being made into new threads  ;) ) .... what happened to you in the interim? Did you finally get in touch with someone who can get you in touch with yourself? I'd like to find out what color his hair is – is it green? purple? – so I can know how to properly title the movie of your life,  "Green is the warmest color"? Hey man, as long as you find happiness, nothing else matters (not even dickrash).

I materialize when the sense of righteousness and morality have been afflicted, to restore the balance and order to the world. ;)

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« #12976 : January 08, 2014, 06:42:31 AM »

So, let's start this.

(1) It's a movie that would have lived up to its hype EVEN IF it had been a bad movie since there is absolutely no hype about it.

(2) The drama worked for me after repeated viewings. I didn't care (in good or bad) at first but then it drew me into it. It's a really smart and well designed movie, you're not supposed to get all the nuances in one viewing. You see, when I say The Departed has to be seen multiple times to be enjoyed, it's because of an inherent flaw: there is just too much info to deal with. It has its advantages, but it all starts from a flaw. With BTDKYD, we're dealing with an intelligent movie. You're not supposed to crack it the first time. Now, I'm not saying the drama is the greatest element in it. It's just something that takes its time to work, and it works when you deserve it.

(3) Actually, the characters are 200% based ONLY ON THE UNEQUAL LOVE FOR THE 2 BROTHERS AND ON NOTHING ELSE, so if that's out of the blue then the whole movie is out of the blue.

(4) It's actually a great performance from him. Not only it worked perfectly for me from the first frame he appears, it's also the performance that made me understand and love his work. He's a true actor, Michael Caine style, who works his ass out, and it shows. The commentary track actually made me like his performance even better: Lumet gives multiple examples of things that PSH added to the movie, in terms of mise en scene. I remember that scene when he's talking to his brother, and the brother is shameful and is sitting while Hoffman is standing next to him, with his fists on the table. That came from PSH. In the script, they were both sitting in front of each other. The tension, the whole dramaturgy and the domination feeling in this scene are so perfectly tied with that single idea from PSH that it's impossible for me to imagine anyone else playing his character and doing a better job. It's not the only example. Listen to the audio track.

(5) EH isn't that bad in it. However, I agree, he's the weakest point of the whole film. Once again, it's not that he's actually bad, but everyone else is so perfect that he doesn't fit. He would have been surrounded by regular A list actors, he would have given an ok performance, apart from a couple over the top close up, but this one is on Lumet. The director should have just told "hey, a little bit less" and it would have worked fine. But all in all, it's quite unfair to say he gives a bad performance. It's like saying Chritian Bale did a bad performance in The Dark Knight: he did nothing wrong, he is just a professional with no particular charisma fighting with Caine, Freeman, Oldman... and Ledger's best performance ever.

(6) Nothing interesting to add: yes, but it works, doesn't it?

(7) He was very good to me, although not the DeNiro kind of good. Just very good.

( 8 ) Ah, you see? You can be right too! In the commentary track, Lumet underlines a cool little detail in his performance in the bar. I won't spoil it.

1) That's not true, here I often read and heard its advocates proclaiming it's the return to greatness for its director Sidney Lumet. There was not as much hype about as for, say, Hobit, but it had its share.

2) Ok, I grant you and the movie that: you're not supposed to crack it the first time around. Still, it remains a valid point, what I already wrote, that I'm not gonna watch any movie again if I don't find anything in it that caught my interest.

3) It is somewhat out of the blue, yes. I do not know if it was intended, but in the end EH's character ends up being a complete imbecile in my view, who sets everything going. However, I doubt many viewers see this, and so further I doubt it was its makers intention at all. It reminds me a lot about the story of Cain and Abel: Cain is the one to blame, yes, but is not the one to hate (which goes on from the very start, and sets all the other events). Here PSH is somewhat of a dick, and for no given reason he's being treated like crap by everybody else (his wife, his father, his brother). Of course we only feel that energy around, since we can't go back in time and inspect his childhood (courtesy of the director I suppose).

4) This is similar to what I said earlier: I can't like the character on the basis of something that I can't sense, be it the DT or wherever else. It's a completely missed point, only what you spontaneously detect has value to you. Trust me, I used to be the grand champion of explaining to people why some movies (and other stuff) are great - a complete waste of time, for them, and more importantly - for me. Cinema is that sort of art, as art is that sort of art. It can't be liked on the basis of objective explanations, it can either sit right with you or not. Granted, it can, perhaps be somewhat amplified in either direction, but from a starting point. Hence, I believe you he made valuable contributions to the role, but that doesn't make it a great performance, maybe they should have added him as a cp-writer.

5) He acts as a complete fuck-up as a character, so naturally, EH's performance doesn't do much justice to that.

6) Works for what, actually? On the top of what I said - her character doesn't have a hint of purpose in the movie, in my book. What does she do, except fuck his fucked-up brother?

7) No, he's far from very good to me, he seems like chosen on the basis of past glory. He brings very little to a role not so interesting in first place.

8 ) I don't have the DVD, you can put me out of my misery right now if you know of good ole Christian charity and good will.

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« #12977 : January 08, 2014, 09:00:38 AM »

I don't pity mass murders in general. Or war criminals.

While in fact, they should be pitied the most.

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« #12978 : January 08, 2014, 04:33:15 PM »

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« #12979 : January 08, 2014, 04:44:16 PM »

Act of Love (1953) 9.5/10 ... staring Kirk Douglas, directed by Anatole Litvak

I saw this film on TCM; based on an Amazon search, it seems this film has entered the public domain, and the only way it is available is through this dvd set of public-domain films http://www.amazon.com/Box-Office-Gold-Movie-Pack/dp/B0012VCN9W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389224558&sr=8-1&keywords=act+of+love+kirk+douglas
(looks like it's only about $14, so if even two or three of these 50 films are good, it's a worthwhile purchase.)


 Douglas plays an American solider in Paris during WWII – this is after the liberation, far from the front lines – he and a French girl fall in love, despite themselves. This is all a flashback; there's a framing device wherein Douglas returns to France years after the war.

There's a couple of cinematic contrivances that are annoying, which I won't bother to discuss because I doubt anyone here has seen the movie, which has never been discussed on these boards.

All I can say is, (if you don't wanna but that dvd pack) don't miss this movie the next time it plays TCM  O0 O0


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« #12980 : January 08, 2014, 08:36:31 PM »

The Golden Salamander - 7/10 - Standard thriller with Trevor Howard foiling gunrunners in Tunisia. Gets some extra points for a nice cast (including Herbert Lom and a very young Anouk Aimee) and some strikingly directed scenes, especially the silent, rain-swept opening.



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« #12981 : January 09, 2014, 03:30:11 AM »


Knockaround guys (2001) - 5/10


Nothing new, but not boring all the way through.

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« #12982 : January 09, 2014, 06:07:56 AM »

The Golden Salamander - 7/10 -  a very young Anouk Aimee
I'm for that!



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« #12983 : January 09, 2014, 06:27:19 AM »

Dallas Buyer's Club, 8
Her, 8.5

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« #12984 : January 09, 2014, 01:56:14 PM »

August: Osage County a dysfunctional family soap yawner another SAG screener, not for me 6/10 for the performances.


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« #12985 : January 09, 2014, 03:12:56 PM »

August: Osage County a dysfunctional family soap yawner another SAG screener, not for me 6/10 for the performances.
I saw the play twice, once on Broadway, then again at the OSF in Ashland, OR. What makes the drama a success on stage guarantees that it will fail as cinema.  I have no interest in seeing the film.



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« #12986 : January 09, 2014, 05:34:14 PM »

Jigsaw (1949) Interesting noir starring Franchot Tone, Jean Wallace, Myron McCormick, Marc Lawrence, and Winifred Lenihan. It has surprising cameos by Burgess Meredith, Marlene Dietrich, Henry Fonda, and John Garfield and is the third noir I've seen that utilizes a POV camera in one sequence. 7/10


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« #12987 : January 09, 2014, 06:27:44 PM »

The Secret Life of Walter Mitty - 8
I had fun. Not too many movies are fun now. good adventure. not much like the short story but whatever. blatant messages/'meaning' works in the family-friendly tone.

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« #12988 : January 09, 2014, 06:42:00 PM »

I just saw Who's That Knocking at My Door (1967) for the second time (on DVD). It's Martin Scorsese's first feature (in black and white), starring Harvey Keitel - Mean Streets was written as sequel to this (There was also a script for a prequel, which never got made.) The movie is basically about the kinds of guys in Mean Streets, a few years earlier. Keitel is the only actor that appears in both movies - his character in WTKAMD is named J.R. – but it's a pretty similar concept: J.R. and his friends hang around the streets of Little Italy; J.R. struggles to reconcile his Catholic beliefs with the life of a boy on the streets; a big part of the story has to do with his girlfriend, and J.R.'s madonna-whore complex; and the movie also uses a rock-and-roll soundtrack.

When I first saw this (which was quite a while after I had first seen Mean Streets), I loved it; I gave it a 9/10. Now, I just saw Mean Streets twice in a row last week, I am in a trance over how awesome Mean Streets is, and then I decided to watch WTKAMD again - but it's a little of a come-down, I was a little disappointed, you can't watch WTKAMD and expect Mean Streets. It's certainly not Mean Streets - few movies are. But it is really good in it's own right - the scenes with the guys were made when Scorsese was in film school; then he added in the scenes with the girls later on. The one nude scene was filmed and added in a few years later, at the insistence of the distributor  ;D

Anyway, the bottom line is that if you are a Scorsese fan and haven't seen this movie, you'd better see it.


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« #12989 : January 10, 2014, 11:52:46 AM »

Just saw SPLENDOR IN THE GRASS for the first time (TCM). SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS..... What a great, heartbreaking movie. Not cuz of fictional events that happened to fictional characters - but because it reminds you of the truth about it, how these sorts of things do happen to real people. People forced into life decisions not of their own doing, but decisions forced on them by various authority figures.having a life affected by poor decisions forced by others is the worst tragedy of all. Even if our values today are different than they were in 1928 Kansas, there are always parrallels that can be drawn. Very sad. Natalie Wood is simply incredible here


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