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« #14280 : November 16, 2014, 08:06:47 AM »

Explanation is fine. Beating the audience over the head with never-ending, pedantic monologues removing any nuance or chance for alternate interpretation is not.
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We can blame that on my stupidity: I wasn't sure what was going on so much after the whole after Cooper enters the bookcase black hole thing. I wasn't really following the movie well enough to be able to be beaten over the head with anything (the same thing happened with the far inferior Inception when it came out... my poor brain just can't handle science). I put stuff together afterwards.

To state thing more clearly (and without singling out various SLWB members), I think that Interstellar is an excellent cinematic experience and a great film that's a bit overrated by fans and way, way, way underrated by critics. But the inability to retain a constant tone is what keeps it far away from being a masterpiece. One part is a great family drama, one part is great sci-fi action, and one part is a 2001-ish exploration of space... but none of them really blend well together. They feel like separate segments.

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« #14281 : November 16, 2014, 08:08:33 AM »

Foxcatcher (2014) - 8/10. The story of wrestlers Dave and Mark Schulz and their relationship with John Eleuthère du Pont, a batshit crazy multimillionaire. The Schulz bros are played Mark Ruffulo and Channing Tatum, respectively. John du Pont is played by Steve Carell, a prosthetic nose, and a dental appliance. All the performances are rock solid. The director, Bennett Miller, builds steadily to a climax that most won't see coming (unless they read the reviews or know the almost-true story already). The film score is quietly effective.



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« #14282 : November 16, 2014, 08:13:15 AM »

We can blame that on my stupidity: I wasn't sure what was going on so much after the whole after Cooper enters the bookcase black hole thing. I wasn't really following the movie well enough to be able to be beaten over the head with anything (the same thing happened with the far inferior Inception when it came out... my poor brain just can't handle science). I put stuff together afterwards.

Well I'm not, or don't mean to be, criticizing Interstellar for not being as opaque as 2001 or Under the Skin. Mostly, I've never liked Nolan's habit of making everything insipidly explicit. It's cool that you have these ideas, some of which are great on paper; can't you think of a better way to convey them than endless monologues? Can't you trust your audience to figure out some things on their own? There's a middle ground between explaining nothing and explaining everything.

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« #14283 : November 16, 2014, 09:43:02 AM »

It's the only Wayne/Ford movie I never managed to watch.

Watched yesterday another Wayne film for the first time. Flying Leathernecks (1951) is a pretty boring flagwaver with all the usual war-film cliches. The only surprise was in retrospect the end of the credit sequence: directed by Nicholas Ray. Doesn't look so for a second. 2/10

I started watching Flying Leathernecks once when it played on TCM; I wasn't enjoying it and shut it off after a while


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« #14284 : November 16, 2014, 10:05:55 AM »

I started watching Flying Leathernecks once when it played on TCM; I wasn't enjoying it and shut it off after a while

Well, in that case you did right, as the film goes on like it begins. And the Wayne character's "we can't afford emotions" ideology wins over Ryan's humanity.


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« #14285 : November 16, 2014, 12:43:36 PM »

Sharky's Machine (1981) Director: Burt Reynolds with Burt Reynolds, Rachel Ward, Vittorio Gassman, Brian Kieth, Charles Durning, Earl Holliman, Bernie Casey, Henry Silva. Crime film that is a re-working of Laura set in Atlanta.    7/10


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« #14286 : November 16, 2014, 02:44:57 PM »

This Sporting Life (1963) - 8/10

This early attempt to a sports drama isn't perfect, but is very intense for its fragmented structure, mostly due to Harris' inspired performance and good direction. Sport then wasn't what is today, yet some recurring themes and problems seem timeless, and here they seem freshly and honestly told.


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« #14287 : November 16, 2014, 04:58:14 PM »

The Last Hurrah - 8/10 - John Ford-directed political drama with Spencer Tracy as a Boston Mayor running a doomed reelection campaign. The cynic in me wants to resist the conceit of a big city Mayor as the only sane politician. Yet there's too much to enjoy: Tracy's nuanced performance (backed by a relatively subdued John Ford Stock Company), the effective political satire (the TV ad might be the funniest thing Ford ever did), the well-handled nostalgia and poignancy.



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« #14288 : November 16, 2014, 06:28:43 PM »

Revanche (2008) - 4/10. If I never see another frame of film in which a guy is cutting wood it will be too soon.



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« #14289 : November 17, 2014, 12:40:24 AM »

The first hour and a half or so is incredible film making - so good to the point that if noodles_leone really tries to say that fucking Gravity is actually better, then he's dead wrong. It's the kind of stuff Spielberg wishes he could be a good enough director to make.

If you are even partially true, if only 10 secondes of the film are more technically fascinating than this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4pcg7bXgmU
... then I'll be the happiest man on earth and for the first time in my life I'll be excited for the next Nolan projects.
I wanted to watch Interstellar yesterday but my shooting endend like 15 minutes too late to catch the screening. Since I'm leaving for Lousiana on thursday, I'm a bit worried I'll have no other opportunity to watch this one on a big screen.

By the way not sure if anyone heard this but it would be really really cool:
http://www.shortlist.com/entertainment/tv/jonathan-nolan-adapting-isaac-asimovs-foundation-trilogy-for-hbo

Sci Fi as an ADVENTURE (instead of action/thriller) genre is getting a great comeback lately and that's awesome.


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« #14290 : November 17, 2014, 02:14:19 PM »

It's the kind of stuff Spielberg wishes he could be a good enough director to make.

When you say director, what do you mean exactly? Are you taking into account the writing or the movie in general, or are you purely talking about technical or directing skills? If it's the latter I don't know how anyone can say that. If it's the former, I still strongly disagree but it's more of a matter of opinion. I don't know how you can say someone who doesn't use color that well (Inception was a massive missed opportunity visually) and can't shoot action very well is superior to Spielberg. Spielberg belongs near the very top with Leone, Hitchcock, Welles, Ford, Michael Mann, Kubrick, Scorsese, etc.


Well, in that case you did right, as the film goes on like it begins. And the Wayne character's "we can't afford emotions" ideology wins over Ryan's humanity.

I know I'm in the minority but I actually enjoyed this movie to some degree and can actually remember quite a bit about it, which is always a good sign. I thought the chemistry was great between Wayne and Ryan (they elevate the material) and the action/aviation scenes were incredibly well done, to the point where I wonder if Tony Scott had this in mind when making Top Gun.

I'm not trying to heap too much praise on it though.



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« #14291 : November 17, 2014, 03:16:22 PM »

The Last Hurrah - 8/10

I didn't read your review cuz I haven't seen the movie and don't want anything spoiled; I just saw the title and rating. This is a Ford movie I wanna see sometime.

Having recently read both Eyman's and McBride's Ford bios, I've now been wanting to see the movie that are discussed therein that I haven't seen that are supposed to be decent.
I believe I have seen all of Ford's sound Westerns. Gotta see some of the others. Just checked off The Wings of Eagles, as I discussed recently. I hear The Fugitive is supposed to be his worst movie ever. I recently read a critic – I believe Richard Schickel – say that he liked it. I gotta watch The Long Voyage Home.

UPDATE: Actually, I see we have a thread called "John Ford"  - although, of course, lotsa Ford films have their own threads, we can use that thread to discuss his ouevre in general and to discuss his films that don't have their own threads. So, let's move this discussion there. I expanded on this post there  :) http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1300.msg175109#msg175109

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« #14292 : November 17, 2014, 03:55:49 PM »

When you say director, what do you mean exactly? Are you taking into account the writing or the movie in general, or are you purely talking about technical or directing skills? If it's the latter I don't know how anyone can say that. If it's the former, I still strongly disagree but it's more of a matter of opinion. I don't know how you can say someone who doesn't use color that well (Inception was a massive missed opportunity visually) and can't shoot action very well is superior to Spielberg. Spielberg belongs near the very top with Leone, Hitchcock, Welles, Ford, Michael Mann, Kubrick, Scorsese, etc.
I don't mean that comment as an attack on Spielberg - he's an excellent director. At the top of his game I consider him overall to be better than Nolan. I bring up Spielberg because I found Interstellar to be very Spielbergian in terms of family sentimentality meeting sci-fi spectacle (ET, Close Encounters, etc.). I thought Interstellar was great in a way that Spielberg has yet to reach with his similar efforts in general terms. Raiders, Schindler's, Jurassic Park, and several others prove that Spielberg is overall a much greater director than Nolan.

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« #14293 : November 17, 2014, 04:07:17 PM »

I'm probably going to see this movie this week, so I'll get back to you on this.



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I know I'm in the minority but I actually enjoyed this movie to some degree and can actually remember quite a bit about it, which is always a good sign. I thought the chemistry was great between Wayne and Ryan (they elevate the material) and the action/aviation scenes were incredibly well done, to the point where I wonder if Tony Scott had this in mind when making Top Gun.

I'm not trying to heap too much praise on it though.

The aerial scenes had some potential, but they did not really work. They were done as a mish-mash of real war footage combined with some typical second unit material and the close-ups of the actors shot in a studio against rear projections. The shaky cam style looked modern, but there was always something missing, even some connecting shots missing to make the scenes work. And I never could figure out who was in which plane (except for Wayne, whose face a blind can recognize, they all looked the same) and who was shooting at whom (which is no problem in the fast edited films nowadays). 
But also I was never interested in the any of the film's characters, so I never cared who will survive and who not.

Wayne and Ryan acted for me like they did not live in the same universe. Wayne was Wayne but Ryan was far less good than usual, and their conflicts left me cold.

Do you think there was anything Ray specific in Flying Leathernecks?


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