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« #16980 : April 13, 2017, 10:00:48 AM »

Seconds (1966) A Rat Race Reboot


 
Bizarre Noir, directed by John Frankenheimer
Never understood the plot on this one. Why is it the "seconds" organization does what it does? I can't see a money motive OR a political one. Just Will Geer's weird hobby?



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« #16981 : April 13, 2017, 10:45:54 AM »

Saw Charlie Chaplin's THE GOLD RUSH (first viewing; TCM).

Hilarious, as always.

Only complaint is the penultimate scene, where the shack is hanging off the mountain, goes on way too long.

Forget Michael Jackson; Charlie Chaplin invented the moonwalk! The early scene in the shack, when the wind blows the door open  ;D

The "Thanksgiving dinner" scene, in whichvthey are eating Chaplin's boot, I laughed literally harder than ever in my life. I was afraid I'd have to call a paramedic. I couldn't breathe, I thought I was going to have a heart attack  ;D ;D ;D ;D

The scene where he shovels snow from one house, dumps it in front of another, then gets paid to shovel the snow from the second, it's sort of a repeat of his gag from THE KID, where the kid breaks the window and then Chaplin gets paid to fix it


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« #16982 : April 13, 2017, 11:38:48 AM »


The "Thanksgiving dinner" scene, in whichvthey are eating Chaplin's boot, I laughed literally harder than ever in my life. I was afraid I'd have to call a paramedic. I couldn't breathe, I thought I was going to have a heart attack  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Watch it again, maybe it works then better ... ;)


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« #16983 : April 13, 2017, 12:48:04 PM »

Never understood the plot on this one. Why is it the "seconds" organization does what it does? I can't see a money motive OR a political one. Just Will Geer's weird hobby?

They charge $30,000 to give you a second life, they fake your death with an appropriate cadaver giving it your teeth, fingerprints, etc. You get a new face a new body, a new career, a new location, your family is provided for. But there is a catch. It a good film.

You can watch it here: https://archive.org/details/John.Frankenheimer..Seconds.1966angeeParaZoowoman.website


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« #16984 : April 13, 2017, 01:12:53 PM »

They charge $30,000 to give you a second life, they fake your death with an appropriate cadaver giving it your teeth, fingerprints, etc. You get a new face a new body, a new career, a new location, your family is provided for. But there is a catch. It a good film.

You can watch it here: https://archive.org/details/John.Frankenheimer..Seconds.1966angeeParaZoowoman.website

Not yet seen this movie, your synopsis and especially the 'But there is a catch' line reminds me a lot of a Twilight Zone episode, 'Button, Button'... Guess I'll have to download it now and and find out  ;)


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« #16985 : April 13, 2017, 05:40:10 PM »

They charge $30,000 to give you a second life, they fake your death with an appropriate cadaver giving it your teeth, fingerprints, etc. You get a new face a new body, a new career, a new location, your family is provided for. But there is a catch. It a good film.
Yeah, so they do all that for 30K. Enough to cover expenses. What's the point of just breaking even? Especially when they are running incredible risks. Hudson flakes out on them--it must happen all the time. There are always many malcontents in any kind of organization. These people become whistleblowers. Even the most ruthless group can't kill all those who would inform against them.
And how is this organization going to keep going if it can't maintain its clandestine status? It's a heck of a hard way to earn 30K a head. Wouldn't it pay better to rob banks? Stoopid, stoopid film.



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« #16986 : April 13, 2017, 06:09:32 PM »

Stoopid, stoopid film.

But so wonderfully shot.

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« #16987 : April 13, 2017, 06:10:51 PM »

Yeah, so they do all that for 30K. Enough to cover expenses. What's the point of just breaking even? Especially when they are running incredible risks. Hudson flakes out on them--it must happen all the time. There are always many malcontents in any kind of organization. These people become whistleblowers. Even the most ruthless group can't kill all those who would inform against them.
And how is this organization going to keep going if it can't maintain its clandestine status? It's a heck of a hard way to earn 30K a head. Wouldn't it pay better to rob banks? Stoopid, stoopid film.

Did you watch it? I didn't give away what they do to the malcontents  ^-^


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« #16988 : April 13, 2017, 06:22:34 PM »

Yeah, I watched it years ago. I owned it on LD. You can't get rid of malcontents the way they do it consistently. The organization never fucks up? It only takes one person drawing attention to the organization for the whole scheme to collapse. One person gets away, or they die mysteriously and people start asking questions.

It's true that the photography is very nice. If that's all you need to enjoy a film, more power to ya. I need a plot that coheres.



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« #16989 : April 14, 2017, 04:50:16 AM »

Yeah, I watched it years ago. I owned it on LD. You can't get rid of malcontents the way they do it consistently. The organization never fucks up? It only takes one person drawing attention to the organization for the whole scheme to collapse. One person gets away, or they die mysteriously and people start asking questions.

It's true that the photography is very nice. If that's all you need to enjoy a film, more power to ya. I need a plot that coheres.

Did Murder Inc., not fuck up eventually? That didn't make it any less real. Does not a witness protection program exist today along similar lines?

Hey, It's like most Noir, ridiculous choices, implausible scenarios, what the fuck do you want a documentary, you suspend disbelief, watch it again sometime you may change your mind.

I change my mind about stuff I've watched years ago all the time. Case in point Night Moves. Give it another shot.


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« #16990 : April 14, 2017, 03:29:35 PM »

Kansas City Confidential (1952) 8/10


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« #16991 : April 15, 2017, 04:07:36 PM »

Q (1982) Directed by Larry Cohen, stars David Carradine, Michael Moriarty, Candy Clark, Richard Roundtree, winged serpent attacks New York. watchable 6/10.

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« #16992 : April 15, 2017, 07:04:12 PM »

Horace and Pete (2016) - 10/10
Second viewing, a year since its initial run. If this were a film, I'd consider it close to the best ever made. It's perfectly written - if I were a high school English teacher, fuck Arthur Miller or Tennessee Williams - my class would be all about Horace and Pete. It pushes the mix of drama and humor to the absolute extreme, and executes it perfectly. But fear not D&D - this is in no way a comedy. Louis, Buscemi, Alan Alda, Edie Falco are perfect. And Laurie Metcalf - has there ever been a better female performance? More of you need to see this... n_l can back me up (but maybe not as enthusiastically as I put it)

Edit: at least 3 uses of 'perfect' in that write-up is saying something

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« #16993 : April 16, 2017, 05:30:49 AM »

Horace and Pete (2016) - 10/10
Second viewing, a year since its initial run. If this were a film, I'd consider it close to the best ever made. It's perfectly written - if I were a high school English teacher, fuck Arthur Miller or Tennessee Williams - my class would be all about Horace and Pete. It pushes the mix of drama and humor to the absolute extreme, and executes it perfectly. But fear not D&D - this is in no way a comedy. Louis, Buscemi, Alan Alda, Edie Falco are perfect. And Laurie Metcalf - has there ever been a better female performance? More of you need to see this... n_l can back me up (but maybe not as enthusiastically as I put it)

Edit: at least 3 uses of 'perfect' in that write-up is saying something

Is it on Netflix yet?


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« #16994 : April 16, 2017, 05:53:29 AM »

Is it on Netflix yet?
its on Hulu. It's also on YouTube, but two key scenes on episodes 5 and 10 have music that mutes out due to copyright,, which also mutes the dialogue. Or they can be purchased on Louis CKs website for $3 per episode (there's 10)

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