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« #13065 : January 27, 2014, 02:14:32 PM »

Yes, de Havilland has to completely change the performance once Clift returns, and she does it (as she does everything) brilliantly.... And no, I wouldn't expect Chastain to be up to it. I think she is a good not great actress


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« #13066 : January 28, 2014, 05:21:30 AM »


Do you mean that you disagree with most of my ideas or that you kind of agree but would be far far less radical?


I think that Blue Is the Warmest Color often has this intensity some films have which look almost realistic. But it doesn't fascinate me as e.g. films by Cassavetes or Rohmer do. Especially Adele seems to play herself, seems as I don't know her. But her impact begins to fade over the complete runtime, cause her character doesn't change that much and her acting begins to repeat her expressions. But at the same time the film doesn't feel too long, it actually is very entertaining for the whole 3 hours. I recently watched Lone Scherfig's An Education in which Carey Mulligan is plain incredible, and while I could  re-watch An Education immediately alone for Mulligan's acting, at the moment I'm not interested to re-watch BItWC in the near future, despite enjoying the acting very much while I watched it.

Another reason is that Kechiche's style is less fascinating for me than Cassavetes, despite that Kechiche tries to reach a similar intensity and closeness by his directing. I see the film much more positive than you and don't had much problems with many things you mention.

But reading other reactions it is at least a film which really manages to fascinate a lot of different people.


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« #13067 : January 28, 2014, 06:04:05 AM »

I see. I agree about Cassavetes. I've never been hooked by Rohmer but I know that I just don't get it so I'm not judging his work. I do feel that I "get" all of BITWC. I surely wouldn't talk so negatively of it if it had not had so much attention. The Palme D'Or is especially annoying. 2013 was an amazing year for cinema and most of the films we mentioned in the "best of 2013" thread are far better that BITWC in almost every way. It seems to me that we got a lot of "almost masterpieces" and the film that was the most discussed here in France was an imitation of Cassavetes. Once again, apart from some ridiculous symbolism or simplistic scenes (but we're talking of less than 30 minutes dispatched in the whole 3 hours), it's far from being bad. Had it been a first movie, I'd even applaud (and wait for the next one with high expectations).


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« #13068 : January 28, 2014, 07:38:30 AM »

Yes, but it seems that many are really fascinated by it. People who watched the film 2 or 3 times in a short time. BItWC has to potential to be something special. That is at least something.


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« #13069 : January 28, 2014, 08:23:13 AM »

I think that's overrated. It's not garbage, but I don't think there is anything to be fascinated. You're not fascinated by it. You're just entertained and a bit moved here and there (I was, during the restaurant scene). I may be missing something, but I don't believe it. It's not a case of "I don't see the point of..." it's a case of "I see far too much the point of everything in it". I feel that I see perfectly what Kechiche is trying to do with each shot, each scene. And I feel that I see why it only works here and there. When watching this movie, I see its limitations all over the place.

That being said, yes, it found a public. Good for the film and its makers. Good for me too, because once again French cinema is getting international attention and that's great for me. I should stop attacking it :)


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« #13070 : January 28, 2014, 08:51:38 AM »

IFC Center is STILL playing Blue is the Warmest Color.
There is a notice that says, Please note: While the MPAA has assigned BLUE IS THE WARMEST COLOR a rating of NC-17, recommending that no one under 18 be admitted, IFC Center feels that the film is appropriate viewing for mature adolescents. Accordingly, the theater will admit high school age patrons at its discretion.
http://www.ifccenter.com/films/blue-is-the-warmest-color/

in addition to the double standard in this movie that we discussed about the underage stuff, do you think IFC Center would have the same policy if it was a real sexy movie about straight lovers?  ;D ;D (the same IFC center has a whole series of shows on queer movies.....)

I guess this is equality  ;D


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« #13071 : January 29, 2014, 04:32:57 AM »

Cause for Alarm! (1951) Loretta Young, Barry Sullivan, Bruce Cowling. From IMDb Invalid George Jones is both physically and mentally ill. He mistakenly believes his wife Ellen and his doctor are having an affair and also planning to kill him. He writes a letter to his lawyer (actually the DA) detailing their alleged murder plot. After he has Ellen give the letter to their postman, he reveals its contents to her and then threatens her with a gun. The excitement proves to much and George suffers a fatal collapse. Now Ellen must find a way to retrieve the incriminating letter. Café au lait Noir watchable 6.5/10


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« #13072 : January 29, 2014, 09:45:30 AM »

LUST FOR LIFE. The story of Vincent Van Gogh, as played by Kirk Douglas. I can't give this any more than a 7/10; it's not easy watching a nutjob get nuttier and nuttier. I'm not a Van Gogh fan (I have seen a few of his paintings, including The Starry Night and the portrait of the mailman at MoMA); I imagine that Van Gogh fans would enjoy it a lot more. (If only they'd make a movie about Edward Hopper..... ;-) Anthony Quinn has a great turn as Gaugin




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« #13073 : January 29, 2014, 10:39:25 AM »

LUST FOR LIFE. The story of Vincent Van Gogh, as played by Kirk Douglas. I can't give this any more than a 7/10; it's not easy watching a nutjob get nuttier and nuttier. I'm not a Van Gogh fan (I have seen a few of his paintings, including The Starry Night and the portrait of the mailman at MoMA); I imagine that Van Gogh fans would enjoy it a lot more.
Although it's only about the last month of the artist's life, Pialat's film Van Gogh (1991) is very good.



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« #13074 : January 29, 2014, 12:16:18 PM »

Are these films really accurate? Was Van Gogh poor all his life? In LUST FOR LIFE, I think they only mention one instance of a painting of his being sold. Did he really not sell many paintings during his life? In that case, I guess his brother Theo must have sold all those paintings after he died?.... Btw, from the moment Douglas's bandages were removed after he slashed his left ear - except for one medium shot - I don't think the movie ever shows a shot of him from the left side




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« #13075 : January 29, 2014, 12:55:41 PM »

Are these films really accurate? Was Van Gogh poor all his life? In LUST FOR LIFE, I think they only mention one instance of a painting of his being sold. Did he really not sell many paintings during his life? In that case, I guess his brother Theo must have sold all those paintings after he died?....
According to Wikipedia, his brother Theo died six months after Vincent did, so someone else sold the paintings. The irony is that in life Theo was an art dealer who sold paintings by just about everyone BUT Van Gogh. Either art buyers pre-1890 were incapable of seeing Van Gogh's brilliance, or Theo was the worst art dealer in history.



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« #13076 : January 30, 2014, 12:14:03 AM »

Walking outta the theater now after seeing AUGUST:OSAGE COUNTY. Meryl Streep plays a woman (who happens to be a cancer patient and a pill junkie) whose family comes together after her husband (an alcoholic) goes missing and is eventually found dead of suicide. So the insanely nutty dysfunctional family comes to Osage County and spends a few days together, cussing at each other and airing all the crazy ugly dirty grievances a dysfunctional family might have..... The acting is terrific all around (and there is not a word I can say about Streep that hasn't already been said), but this sort of story doesn't interest me at all. (maybe cuz I grew up in the most traditional, straight arrow family you can ever find) I just couldn't relate at all, these sorts of problems almost seem manufactured to me.... But i guess there are people for whom this is a reality


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« #13077 : January 30, 2014, 05:57:19 AM »

There are families with Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts as mother and daughter? That would be a cool family to grow up in but I fear not.



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« #13078 : January 30, 2014, 06:04:42 AM »

The Killing of a Chinese Bookie (1976/1978) - 10/10. As it turns out, he's not a bookie. He's not even Chinese, except ethnically. And he's certainly not an empire. He does get killed, though. And Cosmo Vittelli (Jackie Treehorn (Ben Gazzara)) is the man for the job. Only problem is, after the killing, Cosmo's new mob friends want to kill him! And what friends: Al Ruban, Seymour Cassel, Timothy Carey, Morgan Woodward--even Val Avery shows up for a scene. Meanwhile, back at Cosmo's club, the Crazy Horse West, the place is packed. But will Mr. Fascination be able to work through his conflicts with the strippers in time to put on a show? And doesn't the show represent in miniature the Cassavetes project as a whole? And if art is, by definition, what is exceptional in human endeavor, and life is what's common, where exactly is the frontier where the two meet? The search goes on.



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« #13079 : January 30, 2014, 12:21:01 PM »

Blue Valentine (2010) - 9/10


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