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« #13725 : July 16, 2014, 05:25:54 AM »

Du rififi chez les hommes (1955) jewel heist goes terribly noir, the ending is classic 10/10 re watch of criterion DVD O0 O0 O0


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« #13726 : July 17, 2014, 04:07:58 AM »

Two more great Crime Films:

The Kill-Off (1989) Wow, a great Jim Thompson based story neo noir, in an impressive effort by newbie director Maggie Greenwald with relatively unknown actors in a sleazeball fest set in a Jersey seaside resort town 9/10 (PS I'll start separate threads for this, Du rififi chez les hommes, and  the next one... )

The Seven-Ups (1973) another Wow, 10/10 forgot how great the car chase was in this one actually rivaling the chase in Bullitt (1968) Set in and around my old hoods, Astoria, Long Island City, Sunnyside, also with Manhattan & Harlem River.

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« #13727 : July 17, 2014, 12:13:43 PM »

THE WAGES OF FEAR (first viewing; Criterion BRD)
9.5/10

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The ending, with Montand swerving off the cliff, is - no pun intended - overkill. Ridiculous. Contrived. If they wanted to kill him off, they could have found a hundred other, better ways.

Otherwise this is a terrific film, cast is wonderful, I am sure the Europeans particularly enjoyed Vera's armpit hair.

Gabin was first asked to play Jo but refused when he found out his character was gonna die. What a lame-ass. (though maybe it's just as well, cuz nobody would believe Gabin would turn yellow? ;-)

Just weird how almost everyone is speaking French, including the locals, even though it's set in South America. If they wanted to make it all French since it's a French movie made for French audiences, fine, have everyone speak French. But they don't - the Italians sometimes speak Italian, the Germans sometimes speak German, sometimes the locals do speak Spanish. And the Americans speak English. So it's weird how everyone is supposed to be speaking their native language, and sometimes everyone reverts to French. Like when the Italian and German are in the truck together, they sure as hell shouldn't be speaking French!!

Anyway, terrific movie. Can't remember a movie that had me more on the edge of my seat. Terrified. And just when you think it's finally safe to relax ........


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« #13728 : July 17, 2014, 03:29:39 PM »

THE WAGES OF FEAR (first viewing; Criterion BRD)
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Just weird how almost everyone is speaking French, including the locals, even though it's set in South America. If they wanted to make it all French since it's a French movie made for French audiences, fine, have everyone speak French. But they don't - the Italians sometimes speak Italian, the Germans sometimes speak German, sometimes the locals do speak Spanish. And the Americans speak English. So it's weird how everyone is supposed to be speaking their native language, and sometimes everyone reverts to French. Like when the Italian and German are in the truck together, they sure as hell shouldn't be speaking French!!

You've never heard of French Guiana? There actually ARE places in South America where the local language is French.

I love the film, too. Recently rewatched it after seeing the remake on Blu, and was impressed all over again. Yes, I think everyone agrees about the ending, but the rest of the film is so good it is forgivable (but note the use there of the Blue Danube waltz, obviously an influence on Kubrick). And Vera's armpit hair--what a totally sexy lady!

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« #13729 : July 17, 2014, 06:36:23 PM »

If it's French Guinea, then why would some of the people be speaking Spanish? Cuz they are from a Spanish speaking country? That still doesn't explain why Bimba and Luigi - German and Italian - are speaking French. No, it seems to me like half the time the movie is intended to have everyone speak their native languages, then the other half of the time the time they say, 'it's a French movie, let's have everyone speak French.'

On the Criterion BRD, be sure to check out the first bonus feature, of the Russian ass't director (forgot his name), that is very good. Also the last piece about the Censorship was interesting - it seems 50 minutes were chopped by the American distributor, to get rid of references to anti-Americanism (ie. The abuses of the oil company juuxtaposed with the squalor of the locals (and expats) and homosexuuality.

The BRD looks very nice.
But I doubt I could watch this again. IMO - despite the great performances up and down the cast - this is all about the suspense; the movie wouldn't be nearly as much fun knowing what happens. Some people called this director (whose name I can't spell) the 'French Hitchcock,' but IMO Hitch's movies don't depend on the suspense nearly as much. I could rewatch PSYCHO or VERTIGO, but I don't think I could really enjoy re-watching this.


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« #13730 : July 17, 2014, 07:34:25 PM »

If it's French Guinea, then why would some of the people be speaking Spanish? Cuz they are from a Spanish speaking country? That still doesn't explain why Bimba and Luigi - German and Italian - are speaking French. No, it seems to me like half the time the movie is intended to have everyone speak their native languages, then the other half of the time the time they say, 'it's a French movie, let's have everyone speak French.'
I didn't say it WAS French Guiana, I just used that as an example to demonstrate there are French speaking regions in South America. The country is mythical--but it's certainly plausible that it could be one where French is spoken.

Some characters speak Spanish for the same reason that some characters speak English, German, and Italian.

Bimba is German, so his native language is German. Luigi is Italian, so he speaks Italian. There is no reason to believe either man speaks the other's language. How can they communicate? Simple: their common language is French. They've both had to learn the language after living in the mythical Francophone country in which the film takes place.

Obviously, the film being a French production, the French language is going to predominate. But not unreasonably so. Not like some Hollywood movies that insist the whole world speak English.



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« #13731 : July 17, 2014, 10:07:19 PM »

Blue Danube Waltz is probably the most famous waltz in the world, one of the most famous pieces of music ever composed, and has been featured in many movies.
I wouldn't assume this movie gave Kubrick the idea to use it unless Kubrick said so.

Interesting how you say Luigi and Bimba's common language is French - Eli Wallach said that French is the language he and Leone used to communicate on the set of GBU!


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« #13732 : July 18, 2014, 03:26:25 AM »

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I am wondering how you enjoyed the re-watch, since, as mentioned above, there really is no suspense anymore. I imagine the scenes in the town are still enjoyable, and the performances mostly great, but once the trucks start out on the journey, you're not on the edge of your seat and terrified, what was there to enjoy? Just the great performances I guess?


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« #13733 : July 18, 2014, 05:29:26 AM »

I didn't say it WAS French Guiana, I just used that as an example to demonstrate there are French speaking regions in South America. The country is mythical--but it's certainly plausible that it could be one where French is spoken.

Some characters speak Spanish for the same reason that some characters speak English, German, and Italian.

Bimba is German, so his native language is German. Luigi is Italian, so he speaks Italian. There is no reason to believe either man speaks the other's language. How can they communicate? Simple: their common language is French. They've both had to learn the language after living in the mythical Francophone country in which the film takes place.

Obviously, the film being a French production, the French language is going to predominate. But not unreasonably so. Not like some Hollywood movies that insist the whole world speak English.

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« #13734 : July 18, 2014, 05:50:53 AM »

Overrated film.


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« #13735 : July 18, 2014, 05:56:48 AM »

Dersu Uzala (1975) Director: Akira Kurosawa Stars: Maksim Munzuk, Yuriy Solomin, Mikhail Bychkov, Russian army explorer is rescued in the Taiga by a rugged Asian hunter and renews his friendship with the woodsman years later when he returns as the head of a larger expedition. Based on the 1923 memoir Dersu Uzala (which took its name from the native trapper) by Russian explorer Vladimir Arsenyev, about his exploration of the Sikhote-Alin region of the Russian Far East over the course of multiple expeditions in the early 20th century.The cinematography of the landscape, the endless steppe, the forest, the rivers, the mountains is gorgeous. Great story too. 10/10.  O0 O0 O0 Needs a better release available from Netflix.


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« #13736 : July 18, 2014, 11:42:00 AM »

Overrated film.
Wrong again. Just about everything you believe is wrong. An astounding record.



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« #13737 : July 18, 2014, 11:54:17 AM »

Blue Danube Waltz is probably the most famous waltz in the world, one of the most famous pieces of music ever composed, and has been featured in many movies.
I wouldn't assume this movie gave Kubrick the idea to use it unless Kubrick said so.
I assume nothing. I'm looking at the way the movement of a large piece of equipment is accompanied by music, and recognizing the parallel use of such movement-with-music in another film.

Why do you think knowing how things will turn out spoils the suspense? Suspense is created by the juxtaposition of images and sounds. A skilled craftsman creates suspense in the immediate moment of a scene, without regard to the outcome. I have watched The Wages of Fear probably a dozen times. Maybe the first time was the most exciting; but there's been plenty of excitement in subsequent viewings.



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« #13738 : July 18, 2014, 03:29:45 PM »

Hud - 9/10



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« #13739 : July 18, 2014, 03:53:50 PM »

I assume nothing. I'm looking at the way the movement of a large piece of equipment is accompanied by music, and recognizing the parallel use of such movement-with-music in another film.

Why do you think knowing how things will turn out spoils the suspense? Suspense is created by the juxtaposition of images and sounds. A skilled craftsman creates suspense in the immediate moment of a scene, without regard to the outcome. I have watched The Wages of Fear probably a dozen times. Maybe the first time was the most exciting; but there's been plenty of excitement in subsequent viewings.

Has anyone seen the recent friedkin version? I've heard only good things about it.


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