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« #18105 : January 20, 2019, 05:16:13 PM »

I've seen it 10 times or so, and I'd say a 7/10 is a fair rating. The first half is probably a 10/10, but the second half, the heist and aftermath, is merely competent. And one should never miss the opportunity to penalize Jean-Pierre for his bad process work.

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« #18106 : January 20, 2019, 06:09:21 PM »

Maybe I'm the only guy you know who actually knows how to use a rating from 0 to 10. In French schools, and more importantly, at university, we're graded like that (well, mostly on a 0 to 20 scale, but it's the same). So we know how to use it and what it means. If you rate every good film above 8, then 10 doesn't mean anything anymore. And if you don't use 0 to 5, then why don't you use a 5 stars system?

To each his own, I'm not trying to tell you what to do but I'll say it again once more, there is only one correct way to use a 10 points rating:
5 is average, everything under is bad, everything above is good. 10 is a masterpiece and is ultra rare, 0 is shit and is exactly as rare. 4 is a bad rating but there are still things to save. 7 is good, as in "I mean it, it IS good". I can tell you that after 18yo, if I had had 7/10 at everything I would easily have gone to the very best business school in France.



The reason you hardly ever see me rate a movie between 0 and 5 is that if I am watching a movie that's that bad, I'll shut it off before I reach the end, and I never post a rating for a movie I haven't finished  ;)


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« #18107 : January 21, 2019, 03:07:02 AM »

The first one

Ok, but what did you think about it?


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« #18108 : January 21, 2019, 03:18:24 AM »

Maybe I'm the only guy you know who actually knows how to use a rating from 0 to 10. In French schools, and more importantly, at university, we're graded like that (well, mostly on a 0 to 20 scale, but it's the same). So we know how to use it and what it means. If you rate every good film above 8, then 10 doesn't mean anything anymore. And if you don't use 0 to 5, then why don't you use a 5 stars system?

To each his own, I'm not trying to tell you what to do but I'll say it again once more, there is only one correct way to use a 10 points rating:
5 is average, everything under is bad, everything above is good. 10 is a masterpiece and is ultra rare, 0 is shit and is exactly as rare. 4 is a bad rating but there are still things to save. 7 is good,


But then you still waste more or less the 0 - 5 range. If 5 is mediocre, then 7 is already a low rating.

5 out of 10 points for mediocre stuff is much too generous. Mediocre (aka average) films are not half as good as masterpieces. Mediocre stuff gets a 2/10 from me, watchable films get a 4 and good films a 6, and then we go upwards.
Watchable films are entertaining, but on a low level, but nonetheless entertaining, While average films are already often boring, cause they don't have much too offer. And bad films are completely boring.

Drink is right for once btw, what you have written about Le cercle rouge is so positive, that a 7 rating sounds pretty wrong. And odd.

I think Le cercle rouge is a 9.


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« #18109 : January 21, 2019, 08:18:51 AM »

Reminds me of the immortal “post your rating system” thread  :D

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=12078.0


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« #18110 : January 21, 2019, 11:58:51 AM »

Le Circle Rouge is a 9...  I like the second half better than the first half...

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« #18111 : January 21, 2019, 12:09:08 PM »

The Intouchables (2012)  Ran across this on Amazon Prime.  This is a French film about a paralyzed French Aristocrat who is in the process of replacing a assistant.  He chooses a younger candidate who really didn't want the gig and has no sympathy for him.  This coldness is exactly what the Aristocrat ( Phillipe) is seeking  so he hires him.  The film is like watching a Fresh Prince of Bel Air movie.  Thats good or bad depending on how you would view that.  It won a lot of French film awards.  I rank it a 7 out of 10...

The Conformist ( 1970)  I have been trying to find a good Jean Louis Trintignant film after his excellent performance in The Great Silence.  A  Bernardo Bertolucci film its revered by his fans and is known for its visual style. It didn't disappoint there.  The disappointment for me was the plot itself.  Told in current time and flashbacks it seemed to muddle together and I couldn't keep up with whether the action was happening in current time or flashback.   The plot was a jumbled mess... Only visuals alone and a great performance by Trintignant I give this a 6 out of 10.  Otherwise it would be below a 5...

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« #18112 : January 21, 2019, 04:21:25 PM »

Ok, but what did you think about it?

Interesting enough to keep me watching, I'll have to see season 2.


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« #18113 : January 21, 2019, 11:48:53 PM »

The reason you hardly ever see me rate a movie between 0 and 5 is that if I am watching a movie that's that bad, I'll shut it off before I reach the end, and I never post a rating for a movie I haven't finished  ;)
Me as well. Most movies I seek out to watch are usually going to be at least a 5 or 6 because there's an interest in the first place. I also tend to re-watch a lot more movies nowadays so I'm just rating a bunch of stuff that I already rated relatively high.

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I've never seen the Police Story movies but I wanna buy that set.
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« #18114 : January 22, 2019, 02:37:55 AM »



I got bored and frustrated after episode 2 or 3. I'm sure there are good things in it further into the story though.

Interesting.

For me the first season belongs to the best series of that kind on TV, very concentrated storystelling with two very positive surprises, which I both did not see coming, and which were not cheap like they mostly are. Great acting and lots of interesting characters, and they avoided all the flaws most of the other good TV series are trapped in.

But the second season was then a negative surprise. The story is still complex, or at least complicated, but the storytelling was now too often of the usual mainstream banality. The drop of quality was kinda immense.

I have no idea how that could happen.


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« #18115 : January 22, 2019, 07:58:56 AM »

The Friends of Eddie Coyle (1973)  This was surprisingly better than I thought it would be.  It had elements of Heist films mixed in with other gangster stuff so that was unexpected.  Mitchum did his thing.  The plot was strong.  The cinematography OK.  Its a strong film with the ONLY thing holding it back is the television episode music score.  A strong score would've elevated this to a 9 in my opinion... As is i will give it a solid 8...

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« #18116 : January 22, 2019, 08:21:26 AM »

The Friends of Eddie Coyle (1973)  This was surprisingly better than I thought it would be.  It had elements of Heist films mixed in with other gangster stuff so that was unexpected.  Mitchum did his thing.  The plot was strong.  The cinematography OK.  Its a strong film with the ONLY thing holding it back is the television episode music score.  A strong score would've elevated this to a 9 in my opinion... As is i will give it a solid 8...

Very good movie  :)


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« #18117 : January 22, 2019, 08:34:53 AM »

The Friends of Eddie Coyle (1973)  Its a strong film with the ONLY thing holding it back is the television episode music score.  A strong score would've elevated this to a 9 in my opinion... As is i will give it a solid 8...
Such a wrong comment. The score is excellent, Lalo Schifrin, I believe. The fact that TV later copied that style and ran it into the ground with endless cheap imitations is not the fault of the original.

Of course, you completely overlook the film's strongest element, the original novel. It's almost impossible to adapt a George Higgins novel and produce something that isn't stellar. Higgins, a lawyer, knew how crooks talked.

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« #18118 : January 22, 2019, 12:19:59 PM »

Such a wrong comment. The score is excellent, Lalo Schifrin, I believe. The fact that TV later copied that style and ran it into the ground with endless cheap imitations is not the fault of the original.

Of course, you completely overlook the film's strongest element, the original novel. It's almost impossible to adapt a George Higgins novel and produce something that isn't stellar. Higgins, a lawyer, knew how crooks talked.

I was not aware that television copied that scoring style from the film.  They wore it out...lol.

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« #18119 : January 24, 2019, 03:22:16 PM »

Wonder Wheel (2017) Written and directed by Woody Allen. Cinematography by Vittorio Storaro. Stars, Justin Timberlake, Juno Temple, Kate Winslet, and Jim Belushi.

Coney Island Neo Noir - Sort of A Streetcar Named Desire meets The Honeymooners and The Sopranos shot in a kaleidoscope of carnival colors. It's very offsetting at first but grows on you. The Acting is top notch. A lot of fun to watch. Thanks Woody. 8/10

 


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