the baxter mansion

[KERMIT]

as big as the baxter mansion was i think it would have benefited the family if someone would have built a rear exit.  especially if  ramone lives down the street.  

aside from clint, who in your oppinion was unintentionaly  the "coolest " character in FOD ?    

it's not rubio. his job was the madman ramone's offical riffle thrower.

[General Sibley]

That was a pretty serious design flaw.  I think the surviving Baxter heirs have a legimate cause of action against the architect.  

I vote for Don Miguel Rojo, tres cool    He was the calm, mature voice of reason tempering the fire of Esteban and the ice of Ramon.  Chico close second, but no cigar.

[KERMIT]

thank you general. don miguel  probably the most logical answer, but i gotta go with the old coffin maker.  he had a certian positive  can do quality about him.

..."and now it's time to light the fuse and send it back" !  

so, who gets a vote on the most un-cool.....

[redyred]

Yeah, the old undertaker (Jose, I think his name was) - he knew what time it was.

As to the Baxters' mansion, well, the Rojos had obviously planned the massacre fairly well - the barrels rolling off the cart, and all the gang lined up ready to pick off Baxters as they emerged. They probably thought ahead and decided to put something heavy against the back door. Mind you, it would've been pretty funny if they'd all sat there for 5 minutes and no-one had come out of the burning building, then Esteban had gone round the back only to see all the Baxters lined up, with John Baxter doing a head count and Consuela running back in to save the cat or something.

[redyred]

Most uncool character - The young Baxter son - the one who gets slapped.

Not very interesting fact: One of the Baxter gang was played by a man called Antonio Rojo.

[KERMIT]

Most uncool character - The young Baxter son - the one who gets slapped.

Not very interesting fact: One of the Baxter gang was played by a man called Antonio Rojo.

REDYRED, you are correct sir.  when the baxter son, with a serious wardrobe hat problem, second olny to estaban's sombrero   ,  makes a ham of himself when he is shot in the massacre by sprawling across
a barrel.  i think his hat finally fell off at this point.  and mother's love ?  first she hugs the son then bitch-slaps him the crap out of him in front of everybody.  

[General Sibley]

Most uncool?  Gotta be Silvanito the bartender, what the hell was he thinking when he got dressed in the morning.  Plus he was constantly whining about how dangerous it was for Joe to be in the middle with the Baxters on one side and the Rojos on the other - zero cojones.

[Groggy]

Most uncool?  Gotta be Silvanito the bartender, what the hell was he thinking when he got dressed in the morning.  Plus he was constantly whining about how dangerous it was for Joe to be in the middle with the Baxters on one side and the Rojos on the other - zero cojones.

I disagree, Silvanito had plenty of guts.  Remember his standing up to Ramon numerous times, even when getting beaten and nearly killed?  Plus his pulling the gun on Ramon during the trade of hostages.  Can't argue about his fashion sense though, LOL.  

I personally didn't really like Ramon's (implicitly) gay brother Esteban.  I think that he was a very appropriate character for the film, but he seriously creeps me out.

[General Sibley]

Jason Robards would have been better choice to play Esteban.

[Groggy]

Jason Robards would have been better choice to play Esteban.

Any reason for saying this . . .?

I'm not saying I disagree, but why are you bringing this up?

[General Sibley]

The guy who played Esteban was way, way too over-the-top with the flamboyance.  The role screamed for someone with the gravitas of a Robards.  

[KERMIT]

groggy, i'd have to agree w/ the general about robards breathing new life into estaban's persona.  

it seems your idea that won the title of best thread could again be interresting to play with this film as
well.  

BTW, sorry to butt in here, you were discussing this w/ the general.  can you cast some ideas concerning who, in your opinion, would have made a good esteban ?

[KERMIT]

Jason Robards would have been better choice to play Esteban.

jason robards ? NOT AGAIN !  

 GROGGY, estaban creeps me out also.
 
# 1  the sombraro
# 2  that laugh
# 3  those eyes  

[Groggy]

groggy, i'd have to agree w/ the general about robards breathing new life into estaban's persona.  

it seems your idea that won the title of best thread could again be interresting to play with this film as
well.  

BTW, sorry to butt in here, you were discussing this w/ the general.  can you cast some ideas concerning who, in your opinion, would have made a good esteban ?

Well, I can't honestly say I have a choice.  I think that given the context, his character was very appropriate - he just happens not to be my cup of tea.  Not that I'm homophobic or anything, just the WAY he acts is f***in' scary.  Which I assume was the intention.

But if you have another casting idea, Kermit, I'm more than happy to hear it.

[redyred]

But could Jason Robard's do that pschotic, Mutley-esque laugh in the torture scene?